Joined: 05 Aug 2006
Location: Waukesha, WI
I know that I am new here, but the reason I started getting into the Protomen music was because I thought they played original music that happened to be about games. I can't understand why all of these bands just can't write their own music. Sure, the nostalgia of hearing some song from your favorite game is great, but you can't take the music seriously. I guess I am just disappointed.
Let's not get too crazy. I still think it's just a crazy coincidence how similar they sound, I doubt the Protomen would ripoff some old NES music.
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Joined: 18 Jun 2006
Location: Los Angeles
to answer some questions, i think the timeframe we're talking about is probably 85-92ish. my brother was the one who owned the systems. we had famicon and pc engine. once the systems got popular, it was easier for us to get some of the games. around the time that i really started playing games, super famicon had come out, so my brother pretty much left the older systems to me. that's why i'm almost positive that the tape the will of one song is from is probably all famicon and pc engine recordings. i'm not 100%, but i think the game music that cuts will of one off (with the 'sword' sound) is legendary axe ii. between my brother and i, we had tons of games, so anything would be fair game.
with respect to serizawa, i didn't post this thing to discredit the protomen or what they are doing. but after debating over the song and the game music, it does kind of tarnish my opinion of the band, seeing how there are so many nes cover bands that i've come across online, it was kind of refreshing to find a new take on something nostagiac only to find out that it's not as original as you thought it was. it sort of leads to more questions about the integrity of the rest of the songs.
The thing is though, it's not really a rip, if they indeed took some parts of this sound, it's what we call a Tribute. Same with the Killing in the name of - Rage against the Machine bit mentioned in the other thread. There's a difference between ripping off and tributing by using tunes, and The protomen is without a doubt in the second group. I mean, what's wrong with a bit of familiar sound to songs that's actually about Mega man
I do not believe it was done intentionally, since it's been stated that the Protomen and lofi have checked all the bases, and have made sure that they aren't violating any laws (with their work). If they copied the music, they would be.
Plus, if this is music from a PC Engine title, that would explain why no one in the US who posts here has recognized it, and would also prove that the Protomen could not have heard it (unless they actually had a TG-16).
Joined: 03 Jun 2006
Location: Hell- The Valley of the Sun, Arizona
I owned a TG-16 and I do not know the piece.
Ah, you have my condolences, Raz. I owned one as well, and... Well... Yeah. I guess I shouldn't rip on the TG16, it was good for what it was, I was just unfortunate enough to have a complete crap selection of stuff to play on it.
Oh before I forget...
Hey, I assume you are going to the LA show? I'm planning on both the LA and the Vegas (first one) shows, so you shall see me there.
Joined: 23 Aug 2006
Location: United Americas
I think it is fairly obvious that it is a blatant ripoff. There is no way you can listen to the songs all the way through and not hear that they are the same thing(aside from speed). I just think it is even worse that they have all said that they never ripped off a game, because then they are just liers.
First off I like to say I tried my best explaining the following comment about all this, I'm never good at explaining things:
When I heard 'The Will of One', I did feel like I heard it before but after hearing this piece I know I didn't hear it from here and I felt something was wrong with this mysterious mp3. So I studied it a bit.
I have an mp3 of a the Beverly Hills theme song done in NES style. I also have a Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles song done in SNES style when the song originally was only done for the NES and and Arcade.....so making The Protomen song into a NES like style can be done.
So I do find it a bit fishy for that around 1:33 of the mp3 changes style to something different. Most NES games that I can think of didn't do this probably because I think at the time they couldn't handle to make the music in the same structure of music performed by music artists.
Instead of breakdowns, solos, etc., all of them were design to be like a minute and a half songs looped until reached a certain point of the game instead. I never heard a NES song that would have a slow breakdown and then change the original feel of the song. Its like listening to a 'real' song for the background music for a video game.
Also usually when you do hit a certain point to like fight a boss, the song would be 'chopped off'. If he reached some part that enabled this slow part of the song, how could it change into a different song so smoothly? That must of been some good timing.
In 2:18 of the mp3 sounds convincing that he was about to fight a boss, it did cut off the song and changed into a boss theme type of song.
I'm not accusing him for faking this but its just something I couldn't help noticing and thought I should share this. I'll also search since I'm curious about this.
Joined: 18 Jun 2006
Location: Los Angeles
i can understand the arguement about in-game music. i'm 100% certain the will of one song came from the start up screen of a game and not from the game during play. i didn't really do that very much because you get all of the game sounds mixed in and it kind of screwed up the recording. pretty much everything on the tape is title screen music. aside from taking a picture of the tape itself, i don't know what else you want me to do to prove that it's genuine.
i'm 100% certain the will of one song came from the start up screen of a game and not from the game during play. i didn't really do that very much because you get all of the game sounds mixed in and it kind of screwed up the recording. pretty much everything on the tape is title screen music.
That helps a bit, I'm going to search for only title screen songs or better yet ask at vgmusic.com. I usually got there to ask when I find an unknown song.
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