Protomen - the Comm ~ View topic

I didn't read through 16 pages of this thread, but I had some ideas today that I thought were worth considering.

Now, I'm coming from the perspective of the games, which I know The Protomen don't follow too closely, but hear me out. In Megaman 5, Light is kidnapped by Protoman, and the opening cutscene has this happening, Megaman running out too late and finding Protoman's scarf, which he catches. You go through the game, fight Protoman's eight Robot Masters, and go to Protoman's Castle to confront him. You fight weird robots at the end of the stages until you get to Protoman. He whistles, but it seems off-key. Then another Protoman appears (with correct whistle) and shows Megaman that the Protoman before him is a phony. He is Dark Man. Then he gives you an M tank and takes off.

See the parallels yet?

Megaman defeats (kills) eight Robot Masters to get to Protoman to likely destroy him. While it doesn't fit with The Protomen's story completely, I'll explain why I still think it's workable.

It sounds silly but I think Protoman has to show up again. The band is "The Protomen" and he shows up for half of one act? It could happen, and this might just be that I'm a big Protoman fan, but I think he'll return in Act III whether this is a true theory or not.

Dark Man would also help explain the name of the band. Sure, the band's name doesn't have to make complete sense, but "The ProtoMEN" would mean that there's more than one Protoman, would it not? What does this mean for the entire album? Who knows.

Maybe Megaman wanders the world, distraught that he killed his brother and then left the people to die, eventually meeting Protoman himself? Maybe Megaman comes back (under Light's thumb) and destroys the remaining 72 Robot Masters, feeling he has nothing to live for besides that, before realizing that Protoman really wasn't dead? Dark Man could be a trick by Wily to keep Megaman and Light down.

Think about it, if Light sees Protoman and thinks he's alive, he's filled with relief and a bit of regretfulness. Megaman fights with right and wrong, and it gives Wily a 50/50 chance of winning. If Mega destroys Dark/Proto, he could destroy Wily, but if he turns away or joins Wily, Wily is unstoppable. Light was always the better robot creator anyway. And in his grief, Light would never create something again either way, if Megaman joins Protoman with Wily, or if Megaman kills his first son. Granted, it's a gambit, but if he knew Light was creating an even stronger robot than Protoman (who kicked some serious ass) in a last-ditch effort, what other options does he have? He is a wily one, after all.

I don't know what else really makes as much sense to me. Do they include Bass? For what purpose? I doubt they would move into Megaman X, either (though perhaps act III ends with Light's last hope of one last son, recreated or enhanced, sent to the future, which could be a whole other three albums). Roll and Rush, Beat, Auto, Eddie... Those characters would be really silly to add to such a serious story. It could go on without referencing the game (as most of Act II did) where Megaman wanders and reflects on what he's done, but I feel like that last half of Sons of Fate did a fine job of that.

Or maybe Megaman gets to Wily and tries to kill him, but can't, ala 7's ending.

Anyway, just some thoughts from this fan. Lemme know what you think, and Protomen, if this is right, feel free to delete my post so it doesn't spoil the album. Razz

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Well as far as what's in store, we're only promised Due Vendetta.

The Protomen's story takes place within Mega Man 1 and 2. Even though the above track was featured on the first album, I believe it is intended to be the final track of the entire story.
The story flows like this:
Act II:
The Good Doctor -> Here Comes the Arm

Intermission

Act I:
Hope Rides Alone -> The Sons of Fate

Possibly another play of/a new Intermission

Act III and all of its tracks concluding with Due Vendetta.

My reasoning for this is Los Protos NEVER end a show unless it's with Due Vendetta. In that song they name all of the Robot Masters from 1, as well as from 2, Wily, Sniper Joe, Rush Jet, Dr. Light, MEGA MAN, so I'm betting that all of these characters make another appearance on the third album in the story. There's no reason to begin an album with an intermission other than for the audience to read the letter that Light wrote for Emily. IIRC, most of The Protomen are/were into theatre. There is an intermission between acts of a play/opera which is what this group has made.

The ProtoMEN, the name, as far as we're all aware of has no deeper meaning other than there is more than 1 person in the band.

That's if you take Due Vendetta as plot or not. That was the first song they ever recorded together, no? I kind of just thought it was a song they wrote to test out how they sounded together and thought it was so goofy and fun that they put it on their first album. They play it at the end of every show, because it's a great jam, despite how it was probably one of my least favorite songs on the album beforehand. Up for debate.

I just have a hard time imagining them putting Rush in as a good character. Setting him up to be in the story seems like it would take a lot of work and then just feel... off in comparison to everything else; I dunno.

I know what "The Protomen" means as a band name, but if it's the title of the whole rock opera, it would be a good title, if the theory I proposed was correct, I think.

Oooh, I can almost here the Protowhistle from Unrest in some off-key. Or perhaps in some on-key.

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Alright, I must be wrong, then. Good job, Jay C. Way to be a douche.

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I never said you were wrong. I was merely stating what has and hasn't been said. I'd like for Roll to be in Act III but I highly doubt she would be. It'd be hard to just drop her in without it pretty much being: Dr. Light was all alone so he also made a daughter. All she did was vacuum and stuff."

I've got a feeling two things are possible:
Protoman isn't REALLY dead (again) and eventually helps Mega
and
Dr. Light leads a human resistance that actually fights Wily.

I base these, and most of what I think would happen, from hints in the lyrics. "They can't be saved by just one man." That's why I believe that Proto isn't dead.

There are a lot of nods in the music and lyrics from Act I to II and vice versa but nothing really points to what could actually happen in Act III. Hell, you could leave the ending of Act I and be fine with it. I mean Megaman finally sees what Protoman was talking about. Mega's last line is "YOU ARE THE DEAD."

No, you just picked apart my ideas and shot down every bit of it that you could to replace with your ideas. Just as good, right? Sorry, just getting under my skin, since I thought it out and was obviously excited about it since I posted so much, the first and only replies skip the majority of it to pick apart the weaker parts that I mostly already acknowledged.

I've got a feeling that if the Dark Man thing isn't right, Act III will be the story of what happened to Protoman. I know we get it in Act I, but a complete explanation of it might reveal something that we don't know, as we seem to get the story mostly from Light's eyes. Perhaps we see even greater tragedy. Who knows.

I do have a hard time believing Light has much hope left, though. Act 1 was pretty rough on him, losing Protoman, not once, but twice, and having his second son to be the one to kill him? And then Act II... Was perhaps rougher. He loses his love, is exiled for twenty years, and then gets a young man killed. He's lost everything he's had more than once-hell, more than twice, and rebuilt things to replace it, literally, just to lose it again. I think his spirit is probably broken.

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You think any MM3 bots will show up?

It's hard to say either way. I kind of doubt they really dive into any more Robot Masters, because there's just so many of them and there's no real point in it that I can think of. Maybe they'll due a "Duer Vendetta" or "Due Vendetta: Due Harder" where they list off all the Masters.

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I wonder if MM2 bots will show up in-story.

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Due Vendetta

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That may or may not have been in-story. XD; i mean like in Hope Rides Alone.

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Due Vendetta is the epilogue

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That was actually the first track they made, though. And there's no liner notes telling us what it is, exactly, aside form a picture of a crying Megaman. D:

Regardless, I, too, wonder if Act III will have something similar to it. Maybe something like Fade to Phil, or with t \he list like they do it live?

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I'm still going to stress the epilogue part. I'm under the impression that The Protomen have given us enough materials to work with to get a feel for some of the things that will happen in Act III.

"They can't be saved by just one man." - Unrest
"That debt was meant for me." - The Arm

There are other references that lead me to believe that either Dr. Light will PERSONALLY fix what he started, or somehow Proto ISN'T dead and helps Mega take Wily down. There are a lot of other references like this, I'm just too lazy to write them all down right now. Maybe next time.q